Talk:Research/Advanced Plasma Control

Fruitful discussion

Edited excerpts from a fruitful discussion about plasma.

<Winterslice> Makes sense. Plasma weapons fire plasma encased in plastic
	      balloons that burst upon hitting.
<Bandobras> (it will be in RC4, but in RC3 tachyons still fire balls)
<Winterslice> Ionised gas
<Bandobras> hmmm
<Bandobras> gas does not sound good
<Bandobras> but let's say the electric charge keeps it together
<Bandobras> ... I guess not...
<Winterslice> Plasma is ionised gas, simply. But plasma isn't -exactly- gas,
	      it's its own state of matter.
<Bandobras> the balloons are safer, but too complicated, seem like an excuse...
<Winterslice> Not really, they're the most logical way to fire plasma.
<Winterslice> Otherwise the plasma would blast out in a stream and disperse
	      very quickly.
<Bandobras> so, projectiles filled with plasma
<Bandobras> you are right
<Winterslice> Yes, projectiles filled with plasma.
<Bandobras> so make it projectiles filled with plasma for the plasma balls
<Bandobras> and stream of plasma for the Continuous Stream attack type
<Bandobras> this stream is ions
<Bandobras> fired one after another
<Bandobras> they charge the air
<Bandobras> so that the subsequent ion travel further
<Bandobras> and finally most of the hits the target
<Bandobras> I've heard id somewhere
<Bandobras> the things is, these are very narrow beams, as in game
<Winterslice> Hmmm, why not just turn it into a lightning gun?
<Bandobras> we already have lasers
<Winterslice> Use a laser to ionise the air, then send electricity directly
	      from the power cell into the air.
<Bandobras> have you played with plasma weapons?
<Bandobras> this is just cool
<Bandobras> I don't laser can ionise air...
<Winterslice> They can.
<Bandobras> perhas with fog...
<Winterslice> It's one of the paths being researched for wireless tasers.
<Bandobras> oh
<Winterslice> In the real world, I mean.
<Bandobras> hmm
<Bandobras> but, what's wrong with short range plasma streams?
<Winterslice> Sorry, you lost me.
<Bandobras> (the plasma projectiles have longer range and bigger damage per
	    shot)
<Winterslice> You're looking at two different fire modes for plasma weapons,
	      right?
<Bandobras> yes
<Bandobras> first is plasma projectiles
<Winterslice> The main mode fires plasma balloons at a distant target.
<Bandobras> yes
<Winterslice> The second could be like I said, short-range plasma shotgun?
<Bandobras> like I said :)
<Bandobras> oh, you said that too
<Bandobras> great

Laser ionization its uneffective way of high temperature plasma production. It is better to use an electric arc. As cartridges double charges can be used: one part - the accumulator or the capacitor in which the stock of energy for creation of the plasma contains, the second - an projectile part, from what or heavy, but fusible metal, for example mercury or lead. In a long-range mode, the laser is used to create the vacuum channel up to the target, in a shotgun mode, all energy of the accumulator is spent for heating of a projectile, it flies nearby because of braking by air, but the destructive effect is much more. It's my vision. --Eraser 06:57, 4 August 2006 (CEST)

Ha. Thanks for that. I think may use the "electric arc for creating plasma" part. Why do you propose heavy projectiles? Wouldn't light ones be better? This is not impact damage, after all... Oh, I get it, you mean the projectiles would not be filled with plasma, but just whole made of metal! Ha, this seems a bit too complex. Actually, in game (SVN trunk, currently) the plasma-filled projectiles are the long range attack mode and the stream of plasma is the shotgun mode. And what do you think about the mechanism I suggested in plasma weapon descriptions?

--Bandobras 14:48, 4 August 2006 (CEST)